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he lost to john mccain that year. but that year, 2008, also was not john mccain's first effort at winning the republican presidential nomination. he had run before as well. he had run in the year 2000, when he lost to george w. bush. and while that john mccain campaign and his loss that year has mostly been remembered for the egregiously racist dirty tricks played against john mccain in the south carolina primary that year, that's mostly what we think of when we think of him losing to george w. bush that year, now what is starting to become the more salient thing about that losing run, about that losing attempt at winning the republican presidential nomination, what seems more salient now is who john mccain's national co-chair was for that run. it was republican senator chuck hagel. there he is. you can see him in the little circle on the left there. with john mccain's entourage as john mccain was getting ready to launch his presidential bid back in 2000. this is the same chuck hagel who is president obama's nominee f
he lost to john mccain that year. but that year, 2008, also was not john mccain's first effort at winning the republican presidential nomination. he had run before as well. he had run in the year 2000, when he lost to george w. bush. and while that john mccain campaign and his loss that year has mostly been remembered for the egregiously racist dirty tricks played against john mccain in the south carolina primary that year, that's mostly what we think of when we think of him losing to george w....
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senator john mccain says he may filibuster chuck hagel's nomination if the president doesn't get more information on the attack in benghazi and a hold on general renan if he doesn't get answers about the use of drones in the united states of america. that's an issue we talked about last week when i asked the chairman of the house intelligence committee that very question, whether he could see a time when drowns were used against american citizens on american soil. >> i don't think we'll ever get there. i think it's very, very important to understand that the legal justification for using an air strike against an enemy, no matter their citizenship, is long standing in this country. they no longer have the benefit of u.s. citizenship to protect them when they're on foreign land fighting the battle of the united states. >> earlier, i spoke with rand paul of kentucky and asked him if he thinks he is wrong. >> well, he didn't say no. what i want to hear from john brennan before i agree to let his nomination go forward, that no cia or the department of defense cannot kill someone in america
senator john mccain says he may filibuster chuck hagel's nomination if the president doesn't get more information on the attack in benghazi and a hold on general renan if he doesn't get answers about the use of drones in the united states of america. that's an issue we talked about last week when i asked the chairman of the house intelligence committee that very question, whether he could see a time when drowns were used against american citizens on american soil. >> i don't think we'll...
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the kennedy-john mccain comprehensive bill included both security and a path to citizenship. it was written that none of the provisions could be enacted until five areas were achieved. here is what is really interesting, although the bill died we actually made a lot of progress on those provisions anyway. the border security provision largely got it done, even as the path to citizenship got largely left behind. northbound one, operation control the border between u.s. and mexico, that was never really defined. one definition said the whole border had to be under government surveillance. that is true, it is 100% monitored. another definition says we need to be able to quickly respond to any activity, any activity on the border. we're up 57%, up from 1 first in 2007. but experts believe it is just unbelievably impossible. provision number two, staff enhancements for border patrol to 20,000 full-time agents, check, there are currently 24,000. number three, strong barriers which include at least 7,000 physical barriers, plus 105 radar and camera towers and at least four unmanned
the kennedy-john mccain comprehensive bill included both security and a path to citizenship. it was written that none of the provisions could be enacted until five areas were achieved. here is what is really interesting, although the bill died we actually made a lot of progress on those provisions anyway. the border security provision largely got it done, even as the path to citizenship got largely left behind. northbound one, operation control the border between u.s. and mexico, that was never...
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john mccain was looking for viication for the surge. chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue it is chuck hagel. his prproblem is not synta it is elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as a legitimate elected government. we know that the revolutution of 2009 was sparked by the fact that it was a rigd election, at an illegitimate government. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he was asked about the policy of contaient. it was not a bad during issue. he said, yes i support the administration's policy on containment. he then received a note and says i he been told i made a mistake. of course, i am not in support of that.t. the policy of this administration on containining is that it does not have a policy. at which point, democratic senator levin had to rescue him and said, in fact, the administration has a policy of containment, and it is to oppose it. he was clueless. >> colby. clueless? >> he was in a position where he had to dodge a little bit. let'go back to the
john mccain was looking for viication for the surge. chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue it is chuck hagel. his prproblem is not synta it is elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as a legitimate elected government. we know that the revolutution of 2009 was sparked by the fact that it was a rigd election, at an illegitimate government. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he was asked about the policy of...
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john mccain has been on this issue before. it's not surprising but the real fresh face here is marco rubio. he seems to have spent a lot of time going to conservative talk radio to soften the ground. how important is this to him and how important is he to the whole issue? >> marco rubio is a really interesting player, in part because of his own story. he is the son of legal immigrants. >> from cuban to florida. >> right. he is an icon among conservatives who do see him as the future and he has a way of talking about this issue where he had rush limbaugh essentially eating out of his hand so i think that a lot of republicans do look to marco rubio has -- as sort of finding the path but statement you have the 12345r9 from louisiana saying -- senator from louisiana saying marco rubio is just naive. gwen: what about the president's role? they beat him to the punch in the announcement. he went to las vegas the next day and say me too and we hope they mean it. is he waiting for congress to take the lead? >> for now. this has been a
john mccain has been on this issue before. it's not surprising but the real fresh face here is marco rubio. he seems to have spent a lot of time going to conservative talk radio to soften the ground. how important is this to him and how important is he to the whole issue? >> marco rubio is a really interesting player, in part because of his own story. he is the son of legal immigrants. >> from cuban to florida. >> right. he is an icon among conservatives who do see him as the...
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john mccain was blunt about it. his own state is going flu in a hurry unless republicans make a dramatic -- blue in a hurry on the republicans make a dramatic difference. 1993, the country was 3.5% hispanic. in 2011, 17%. 2050, it will be 29%. whites will have gone from 85% of the national population, down to 48%. >> interesting numbers. >> yes, but we will be kind. [laughter] >> say that in spanish. [laughter] >> my brothers and i will be kind. the reality is, we are not going to send 11 people -- 11 million people back from where they came. and that is the way it should be. the problem will come from those who do not feel there is enough enforcement on the books, and these individuals will probably -- they are picking up the .rgument that is not the major issue, defense. >> san diego put up a triple- strand fence that has decreased entrance by 90%. it works, we ought to try it. the fact nobody wants to is an indication of a lack of seriousness. >> if we cannot solve immigration, how about guns? >> we must do somet
john mccain was blunt about it. his own state is going flu in a hurry unless republicans make a dramatic -- blue in a hurry on the republicans make a dramatic difference. 1993, the country was 3.5% hispanic. in 2011, 17%. 2050, it will be 29%. whites will have gone from 85% of the national population, down to 48%. >> interesting numbers. >> yes, but we will be kind. [laughter] >> say that in spanish. [laughter] >> my brothers and i will be kind. the reality is, we are...
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. >> john mccain is not the issue, it is chuck hagel. his problem is not some tax, it is knowledge, elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as illegitimate the elected government. we know that the rolutn of 2009 was part byhe ft tha it was a rigged election, an illegitimate economy. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he said, he was asked about the policy of containment. it was not a bad during issue. he says, yes, i support the administration's policy of containment. he then gets a note that says, i have been told that i made a mistake. of course i am not in support of that. a policy of this administration on containment is that it does t have a policy of containment. at whi poi democratic senator levin had to rescue him and said, in fact, the administration has a policy of containment, and it is to oppose it. he was clueless. >> colby? >> he was in the position where he had to dodge a little bit. let's go back to the exchange with senator mccain on the surge. the issue was never the surge when you ta
. >> john mccain is not the issue, it is chuck hagel. his problem is not some tax, it is knowledge, elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as illegitimate the elected government. we know that the rolutn of 2009 was part byhe ft tha it was a rigged election, an illegitimate economy. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he said, he was asked about the policy of containment. it was not a bad during issue. he says, yes, i support the administration's policy...
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many of them came from former colleagues and arizona senator john mccain. >> i don't know. i can't give you an example. i was handed a note that i misspoke and said i supported the passport's position on containment. i meant to stay his position on containment we don't. >> the question is were you right or wrong. that stistraightforward question. i would like to answer whether you are right or wrong and you are free to elaborate. >> i am not going to gich you a yes or no answer. >> no . he never did . this is it want gipe who be secretary much defense. the let's hope someone in the united states senate realize that chuck may be a nice guy and great friend to them in the senate but if you watch the testimony it is it obvious he's not up to the task of being secretary . defense. it upon mean he is ready for this particular job . it reminds me in the vice-president debates when a american hero in a moment misunderstood by a lot of people . he was saying it tongue in check. but forever remembered and when i watched chuck haggle. it reminded me of admiral. >> who am i? why am i
many of them came from former colleagues and arizona senator john mccain. >> i don't know. i can't give you an example. i was handed a note that i misspoke and said i supported the passport's position on containment. i meant to stay his position on containment we don't. >> the question is were you right or wrong. that stistraightforward question. i would like to answer whether you are right or wrong and you are free to elaborate. >> i am not going to gich you a yes or no...
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is senator john mccain grilling hagel about hagel's opposition to the surge in iraq in 2007. >> were you correct in your judgment. >> i would defer that to history. >> when you were right or wrong about the surge. >> i'll explain why i played those comments. >> i want to know if you were right or wrong. that is a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> senator hagel explained he opposed the surge in iraq because it cost nearly 1200 american lives. >> i saw the consequences and the suffering and the horror of war. so i did question a surge. i always ask the question, is this going to be worth the sacrifice? because there will be sacrifice. >> that was hagel's emphasis on the cost factor. my question is this. his emphasis on the cost factor in military decisions, does it serve as a dodge to senator mccain's bullet? or did he mean this completely from the heart? and if he did, isn't he exactly the man we want over at the department of defense? >> he was talking about the cost of lives. >> that's correct. >> and i think in that exchange that you showed, john mccain indicated how pe
is senator john mccain grilling hagel about hagel's opposition to the surge in iraq in 2007. >> were you correct in your judgment. >> i would defer that to history. >> when you were right or wrong about the surge. >> i'll explain why i played those comments. >> i want to know if you were right or wrong. that is a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> senator hagel explained he opposed the surge in iraq because it cost nearly 1200 american lives....
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kerry did, and he only had three votes against him -- >> on fox news, john mccain recalled that hagel was very rough on bush, said he was the worst president we ever had, that the surge in iraq was the worst mistake since vietnam, and that is why republicans are down on him. >> john mccain has been shifting positions this week. this thing walks like a filibuster, quacks like a filibuster. it is the filibuster. i would like to point out a couple of the facts -- secretary of defense bill cohen, republican. secretary of defense of bob gates, republican. secretary of defense melvin laird, republican national. security adviser brent scowcroft, a republican. rmer chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, colin powell, republican did all of them have endorsed chuck hagel. who lost benghazi -- next it will be lost china, who prpromoted and is from captain to major? joe mccarthy will find out about it. >> go ahead, charles. >> and have as long a list of endorsements as you want and leave your lying eyes. believe your lying eyes. it is less about ideology or any thing is about competence. there's
kerry did, and he only had three votes against him -- >> on fox news, john mccain recalled that hagel was very rough on bush, said he was the worst president we ever had, that the surge in iraq was the worst mistake since vietnam, and that is why republicans are down on him. >> john mccain has been shifting positions this week. this thing walks like a filibuster, quacks like a filibuster. it is the filibuster. i would like to point out a couple of the facts -- secretary of defense...
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john mccain put it very bluntly that his state would be a blue state, the democratic destiny. ann coulter has already come out against marco rio, saying that all you doing is creating more democratic votes with the path to cititizenship, just like with easy divorce, in her judgment. >> does she have a point, colby? >> as far as rubio is concerned? >> creating more democratic votes. >> date and will probably continue to vote democratic until republicans come up with policies that attack their attentioto it when you have health care plans to that brings latis into the system, as obama's does, that his policy. you are not going to change that with marco rubio's face. we're sitting on a bunch of shale gas. there's natural gas under my town. it's a game changer. ♪ ♪ it means cleaner, cheaper american-made e energy. but we've got to be careful how we get it. design the wells to be safe. thoands of jobs. use the most advanced technology to protect our water. billions in the economy. at chevron, if we can't do it right, we won't do it at all. we've got to think long term. we've go
john mccain put it very bluntly that his state would be a blue state, the democratic destiny. ann coulter has already come out against marco rio, saying that all you doing is creating more democratic votes with the path to cititizenship, just like with easy divorce, in her judgment. >> does she have a point, colby? >> as far as rubio is concerned? >> creating more democratic votes. >> date and will probably continue to vote democratic until republicans come up with...
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john mccain was blunt about it. his own state is going blue in a hurry, unless republicans make a dramatic difference. in 1960, the country was 3.5% hispanic. in 2011, it was 17%. in 2050, it will be 29%. whites will have gone from 85% of the national population, down to 40% in the 90-year span. >> interesting numbers. >> yes, but we will be kind. [laughter] >> say that in spanish. [laughter] >> my brothers and i will be kind. look, the reality is, we are not going to send 11 million people backed where they came. we are going to keep them here, as it should be. the problem is going to come in from those who feel there is not enough enforcement on the books. these individuals will probably pick up the arguments that is advanced by our colleague charles, to have a fence from coast-to-coast. that is not the major issue here. >> san diego put up a triple- strand fence that had decreased apprehension by 92%. fences work. we ought to at least try it. the fact that nobody wants to is an indication of and seriousness about
john mccain was blunt about it. his own state is going blue in a hurry, unless republicans make a dramatic difference. in 1960, the country was 3.5% hispanic. in 2011, it was 17%. in 2050, it will be 29%. whites will have gone from 85% of the national population, down to 40% in the 90-year span. >> interesting numbers. >> yes, but we will be kind. [laughter] >> say that in spanish. [laughter] >> my brothers and i will be kind. look, the reality is, we are not going to...
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this is a man whoo john mccain is. he has turn on his supplying poelsed friend chuck hagel and coat of arms in a matter of hours in this effort to drum up dirt on this go t poorl man who has been through enough at this point in terms of trying to get barack obama the defense secretary they want. they've gooned kelly in. they have no precedent for it other than saying we're going to torture this guy because he didn't like the iraq war. >> we'll know his true color whaens this right wing crowd eve eventually turns on his friend and you fwhoe they will. and they'll go to graham in the next primary fight and he'll have to stand up for his friend. thank you joy read and michael steele. >>> are you now or have you ever been? this week ted cruise of texas says he'd be very comfortable having those words spill out of his mouth. >>> plus, can president obama beat the nra. wayne lapierre's rantings are easy to lampoon but he may have the support and votes to block any kind of real gun legislation and them's the facts. >>> also i
this is a man whoo john mccain is. he has turn on his supplying poelsed friend chuck hagel and coat of arms in a matter of hours in this effort to drum up dirt on this go t poorl man who has been through enough at this point in terms of trying to get barack obama the defense secretary they want. they've gooned kelly in. they have no precedent for it other than saying we're going to torture this guy because he didn't like the iraq war. >> we'll know his true color whaens this right wing...
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. >>> john mccain believes senator chuck hagel will likely be confirmed a week from today. >> i don't believe he is qualified but i don't believe we should hold up his nomination any folder because it is a reasonable time to have questions answered. >> they say they need more time to have questions answered about senator chuck hagel and john mccain believes the vote should go forward. >>> a family is in shock after their teenage daughter was shot. renee mcfarland was shot just hours after heresies' attended -- her sister attended the president's speech. >> every time think about the way my child died, she didn't deserve it. she did not deserve that. >> police say the teen was visiting family in north chicago when she was shot in an alley. a memorial has been set up in the spot where she lost her life. >> they are warning americans to be careful at one of peru's most favorite site. they announced peruvian terrorists may have time to be connected to a rebel group known as the shining path. peru began a crackdown against their cocaine operation. >> time now 4:47 we might be expecting lig
. >>> john mccain believes senator chuck hagel will likely be confirmed a week from today. >> i don't believe he is qualified but i don't believe we should hold up his nomination any folder because it is a reasonable time to have questions answered. >> they say they need more time to have questions answered about senator chuck hagel and john mccain believes the vote should go forward. >>> a family is in shock after their teenage daughter was shot. renee mcfarland...
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john mccain so angry? 40 years after the vietnam p.o.w.s came home the most famous of them is angrier than ever. we are we fighting vietnam again in the u.s. senate. the ticked-off hagel, is it just for show? the basic unfairness of vietnam itself that some went and some didn't? is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win the war or end it? what is it about john mccain that seems to excite those who know nothing about vietnam. well tonight we dig into the deep well of resentment burning in john mccain's patriotic heart. a resentment not against the north vietnamese who imprisoned and tortured him, not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stain mccain's reputation. but just like he did, in the same army of america's long nightmare in vietnam. i'm joined by david corn with "mother jones" and joy reed with the grio. i have to tell you i'm convinced we're watching a flashback. watch this, here's senator john mccain, he did a long, angry wind-up before he launched into his first so-c
john mccain so angry? 40 years after the vietnam p.o.w.s came home the most famous of them is angrier than ever. we are we fighting vietnam again in the u.s. senate. the ticked-off hagel, is it just for show? the basic unfairness of vietnam itself that some went and some didn't? is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win the war or end it? what is it about john mccain that seems to excite those who know nothing about vietnam. well tonight we dig into the deep well of resentment burning in...
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they are very put out about that. >> on fox news, john mccain recall that hagel was very rough on president bush, said that the surge in iraq one was the biggest mistake since vietnam, and that is the reason republicans are down on him. >> john mccain has been shifting positions this week. he is against the filibuster but wants to delay. this thing walks like a filibuster, quacks like a filibuster. it is a filibuster. secretary of defense bill cohen, republican. secretary of defense robert gates, republican. national security adviser brent scowcroft, republican. chairman of the joint chiefs of staff colin powell, republican. all of them are for and have endorsed publicly chuck hagel. who lost benghazi? next it will be lost china, who promoted the dentist from captain to major, and joe mccarthy will find out about it. chuck hagel wasn't even in the government at the time at benghazi. >> you can have as long a list of endorsements as you want, you can look at that and believe that or believe your lying eyes. is not ideology or history. it is competence ptt the worst performance of any nominee
they are very put out about that. >> on fox news, john mccain recall that hagel was very rough on president bush, said that the surge in iraq one was the biggest mistake since vietnam, and that is the reason republicans are down on him. >> john mccain has been shifting positions this week. he is against the filibuster but wants to delay. this thing walks like a filibuster, quacks like a filibuster. it is a filibuster. secretary of defense bill cohen, republican. secretary of defense...
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we'll show you why john mccain says why republicans have it in for the nominee. >>> the karn vil cruise ship, at lost last returned to port last night with little power, few working bathrooms. there was a collective sigh of relief from the more than 3,000 passengers. but even leaving the "triumph" proved difficult. with one working elevators, it took fours to disembark. nbc's mark potter joins us live from mobile, alabama, passengers are off the ship, mark from talking to them what is the lasting image that you're going to have of this endeavor. >> well, it's very clear, they're very glad to be off that ship and on terra firma. people were along the ralgs cheering when it come to dock. most said that the living conditions after that engine fire just got increasingly worse and became unbearable. maybe said the worst time was right after the engine fire because they didn't know what was going on. they hadn't been fully informed and that scared them. as we heard at the beginning of the program, many people also praised the crew members saying they worked really hard to comfort the passenge
we'll show you why john mccain says why republicans have it in for the nominee. >>> the karn vil cruise ship, at lost last returned to port last night with little power, few working bathrooms. there was a collective sigh of relief from the more than 3,000 passengers. but even leaving the "triumph" proved difficult. with one working elevators, it took fours to disembark. nbc's mark potter joins us live from mobile, alabama, passengers are off the ship, mark from talking to...
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mccain. good to have you here. steve, i want to start with you. because your john hancock is on this brief. you're quotes as saying that the dye is cast. >> i support marriage equality for gay americans because of my conservatism, not in spite of it. when i look at my own marriage, the profound joy that it has brought me, republicans to try to disinfrance chis people from that, which has been affirmed by marriage that is just a fundamental right, that you see a group of republicans, i think, embracing historic foundations in our party of freedom, of equality and i think you will see more and more people coming out and being in support of equality. and when you look at the younger generation, that marriage believes in marriage equality. the dye is cast and gay americans will receive full and equal treatment under the law and hopefully the supreme court will assure that that happens. >> bloomberg is reports that president obama may be getting ready to show nationwide support for marriage equali
mccain. good to have you here. steve, i want to start with you. because your john hancock is on this brief. you're quotes as saying that the dye is cast. >> i support marriage equality for gay americans because of my conservatism, not in spite of it. when i look at my own marriage, the profound joy that it has brought me, republicans to try to disinfrance chis people from that, which has been affirmed by marriage that is just a fundamental right, that you see a group of republicans, i...
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john mccain was the author of the surge of troops to iraq at the end of the administration, pushed it hard, took a lot of heat, including from the right. he takes it personal when chuck hagel calls it the bigst debacle since vietnam. and senator hagel dodging the question on whether he agreed with the same statement. hag mccain was getting testy and hagel was dodging. it was one of the key military decisions in the past ten years, and if senator hagel is the top military adviser to the president, they want to explore his thinking on that. and politics, trying to portray senator hagel as anti israel plays well to some interest groups, and that's much more politics. >> to pull from a football term given the weekend, it seems like he was fumbling around. was he not as well prepared as he ought to have been? >> no doubt, senators walked out of the hearing shaking their head, from both sides, democrats and republicans were very surprised how poorly prepared senator hagel appeared to be. for expected -- like senator mccain's questions about the surge. that's just a fundamental question you
john mccain was the author of the surge of troops to iraq at the end of the administration, pushed it hard, took a lot of heat, including from the right. he takes it personal when chuck hagel calls it the bigst debacle since vietnam. and senator hagel dodging the question on whether he agreed with the same statement. hag mccain was getting testy and hagel was dodging. it was one of the key military decisions in the past ten years, and if senator hagel is the top military adviser to the...
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john mccain put it very bluntly that his state would be eight blue state. but ann coulter has already come out against marco rubio, saying that all we are doing is creating more democratic voters with a path to citizenship, just like you did with easy divorce, in her judgment. >> does she have a point, colby? >> as far as rubio is concerned? >> creating more democratic votes. continue tol c vote democratic until republicans come up with policies that attract their attention. when you have a health care plans that brings latinos into the system as obama's does, that his policy. you will not change that with marco rubio's face. >> were you watching when the lights went out at the super bowl? that happens around washington and a lot. >> the interruption in service did not occur inside the building. >> the system worked the way it was supposed to work. >> the system worked -- that is what they said after watergate. [laughter] the power company says there was a faulty device they installed to prevent a power failure. in any case, it brings me to the question of
john mccain put it very bluntly that his state would be eight blue state. but ann coulter has already come out against marco rubio, saying that all we are doing is creating more democratic voters with a path to citizenship, just like you did with easy divorce, in her judgment. >> does she have a point, colby? >> as far as rubio is concerned? >> creating more democratic votes. continue tol c vote democratic until republicans come up with policies that attract their attention....
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i think that almost in a way john mccain made the surge into the war as john mccain would have fought it as commander-in-chief. and anyone who questions it gets the wrath of mccain. and i watched that hearing, that part of the hearing with colonel jack jacobs and pat murphy, the governor of pennsylvania who served in iraq. and both of those guys were at the bottom of the pile. and you view war differently. but the lesson that these two men took from vietnam seems to have been so different. hagel took the questioning, the same thing patrick murphy feels, being lied to and feeling anger for knowing you friends died for what you believe to be a lie. >> here's lindsay graham, badgering defense nominee hagel. about his whether the iranian revolutionary guard should be designated terrorist organization. i think this is aimed at south carolina's right wing. let's listen. >> if there was a vote on the floor of the senate this afternoon, to label the iranian revolutionary guard, the people who have killed our soldiers in iraq, some of the most vicious people to the people of iran themselves, i
i think that almost in a way john mccain made the surge into the war as john mccain would have fought it as commander-in-chief. and anyone who questions it gets the wrath of mccain. and i watched that hearing, that part of the hearing with colonel jack jacobs and pat murphy, the governor of pennsylvania who served in iraq. and both of those guys were at the bottom of the pile. and you view war differently. but the lesson that these two men took from vietnam seems to have been so different....